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Re: FINAL CONCLUSION OF THE DEBATE: IS JESUS GOD?
N.aliakbar & A.D. "got" to the diner table late, but now dessert is over. I hope they understand! Just like the call of the Adhan, (announcement) for salat (prayer), time waits for no man...although we Christians pray always, & it is the only way to keep your thoughts pure...
Luk 18:1 And he spake a parable unto them [to this end], that men ought ALWAYS to pray, and not to faint;
Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray ALWAYS, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
2Th 1:11 Wherefore also we pray ALWAYS for you, that our God would count you worthy of [this] calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of [his] goodness, and the work of faith with power:
Act 6:4 But we will give ourselves CONTINUALLY to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
Act 12:5 Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made WITHOUT CEASING of the church unto God for him.
Eph 6:18 Praying ALWAYS with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Phl 1:4 ALWAYS in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;
1Pe 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and WATCH unto prayer.
Mat 24:42 "Therefore KEEP WATCH, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
Mat 26:41 "WATCH & PRAY so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
Luk 12:38 It will be GOOD for those servants whose master finds them READY, even if he comes in the SECOND OR THIERD WATCH of the night.
Luk 21:36 Be ALWAYS on the WATCH, AND PRAY that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."
Besides, Positron's conclusions cover all outstanding inquiries. Now you have the Christian point of view, and not from an IMAM. We all have much to mull over, even the CHRISTIANS. A.D. & N.aliakbar, unfortunately, you will have to scrub thru the notes for what you missed. If you don't have them request it from your friend Dazed & Confused. After all, we are not required to be redundant, & anyway, that would be a sign of weakness. I reiterate, please avail yourselves of POSITRON'S SPLENDID VIDEOS, unmalicious & informative, or google the web for the information you seek. I encourage you to do so, and God (AMDG) promises...
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Thanks to Gokilex for inviting us to this debate. Thanks also for the new Christian friends, your comments & prayers. Let's stay in touch. I feel at peace!
These are my finally thoughts, not a rebuttal, but an invitation. I would be remiss not to extend this offer. By the way, I took the liberty to insert "Born Again Christian," of which I am, in the following statement by one of your peers. In doing so I wanted to clarify our point of view, not from a Western, European, Anglo Saxon perspective, but yours:
"Born Again Christians and Kafir are both human beings; both are slaves of God. But one human being becomes superior for the reason that he recognizes his Master, obeys His orders and fears the consequences of disobeying Him, while the other human being falls from the high rank because he does not recognize his Master and does not carry out His orders. This is why God is pleased with Born Again Christians and displeased with unbelievers. He promises reward of Heaven to Born Again Christians and warns unbelievers that they will be consigned to Hell."
Here ye, here ye, this final ADHAN:
All Muslims, & other inquisitive minds, may the Lord have mercy on your souls, please follow these instructions:
The Roman Road to Salvation, (CONTENDERMINISTRIES.ORG)
The ROMANS ROAD....is a pathway you can walk.
It is a group of Bible verses from the book of Romans in the New Testament. If you walk down this road you will end up understanding how to be saved.
Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
We all have sin in our hearts. We all were born with sin.
We were born under the power of sin's control.
- Admit that you are a sinner.
Romans 6:23a "...The wages of sin is death..."
Sin has an ending. It results in death. We all face physical death, which is a result of sin. But a worse death is spiritual death that alienates us from God, and will last for all eternity. The Bible teaches that there is a place called the Lake of Fire where lost people will be in torment forever. It is the place where people who are spiritually dead will remain.
- Understand that you deserve death for your sin.
Romans 6:23b "...But the gift of God is eternal
life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Salvation is a free gift from God to you! You can't
earn this gift, but you must reach out and receive it.
- Ask God to forgive you and save you.
Romans 5:8, "God demonstrates His own love for us, in
that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us!"
When Jesus died on the cross He paid sin's penalty. He paid the price for all sin, and when He took all the sins of the world on Himself on the cross, He bought us out of slavery to sin and death! The only condition is that we believe in Him and what He has done for us, understanding that we are now joined with Him, and that He is our life. He did all this because He loved us and gave Himself for us!
- Give your life to God... His love poured out in Jesus on the cross is your only hope to have forgiveness and change. His love bought you out of being a slave to sin. His love is what saves you -- not religion, or church membership. God loves you!
Romans 10:13 "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved!"
- Call out to God in the name of Jesus!
Romans 10:9,10 "...If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Jesus from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation."
- If you know that God is knocking on your heart's door,
ask Him to come into your heart.
Jesus said,
Revelation 3:20a "Behold I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him..."
- Is Jesus knocking on your heart's door?
Believe in Him.
Ask Him to come in to your heart by faith,
and ask Him to reveal Himself to you.
Open the Bible to the Gospel of John and read what God says about Jesus,
about you, and about being born again.
God will help you. He loves you.
You need to look for a local church where
God's word is preached. The Bible says that we are to desire
God's word like a newborn baby desires mother's milk.
Aren't you hungry to know the truth?
Water baptism is one of the ways you first show that
you have been joined to Jesus. This is an action, and actions will not save you. However, it is an act of obedience and a symbol of commitment.
The symbolism is this:
When you go down in the water you show that
You have been crucified and buried with Him,
And when you come up out of the water you show that
you have been raised to walk with Him in newness of life.
(See Romans chapter 6)
You have been born again.
(See John chapter 3)
Your body has become God's temple.
Your heart is where He lives.
Forgiveness is yours in Jesus.
And you belong to Him.
You were sin's slave.
But now...
You are a child of GOD!
John 1:12
"As many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name!"
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Isa 49:8 This is what the Lord says: "In the time of my favor I will answer you, and in the day of salvation I will help you; I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people, to restore the land and to reassign its desolate inheritances,
2Cr 6:2 For he says, "In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you." I tell you, now is the time of God's favor, now is the day of salvation.
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